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08-14-2008, 07:42 PM
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Hello
I am still in lots of pain 2 years after my last surgery. I am utilizing pain mgt at the present time but have not been overly impressed as to what they have offered me so far. I had an SI joint injection in May which did relieve some of my symptoms for about 6-7 weeks. I had some trigger point injections on my neck and shoulders which have started giving me fits due to my new career in freelance writing for online publications. I saw on the Olympics tonight the various volleyball players wearing tape on different areas of their bodies. They mentioned this was kinesio taping for improved movement and pain therapy. I read some info on this, according to the info Lance Armstrong and his crew used this during the Tour De France and they had really good results with it and cold laser therapy as well. I have an appt with my pain mgt guy on Monday and I am going to see what their take on this is. I did find a chiro in Nashville which is about 45 min drive to 1 hr from me that does both therapies. I am really interested in pursueing this as I am very tired of being injected over and over til I feel like a darn pin cushion for a short term period of relief. Anyone here had either of these procedures and what were your experiences with them? TIA
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Kim Herniated disc L5/S1 2000 Discectomy 10/2003 Rhizotomy 8/2004 and 3/2005Discogram 11/04 grade 7 tear L5/S1 L4/L5 Grade 5 tear with herniation and stenosis Evaluated by Dr Blumenthal at TBI 2/2005 ADR 2 level recommended 2 level lumbar fusion 
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08-15-2008, 10:49 AM
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I did have a physical therapist that was trained in this method and utilized taping with me on a regular basis. I was impressed with the results though this was before my ADR surgery. Towards the end the only pain relief was from GOOD DRUGS!
I think it is worth a try as the muscles are being redirected with the taping. Best of luck. Terry Newton
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08-15-2008, 05:46 PM
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Hi Kim, welcome. There's a lot of information - and misinformation - out there on cold laser technology. Did you already search and sift through this board on this subject? Here are some of the results...from an advanced search.
___________________________________________ RE: LLLT (Low Level Laser Therapy) (in Spinal Roundtable) by Harrison I think some people have...in the meantime, see: Cold Laser Pain Treatment Grows In Popularity http://adrsupport.org/eve/forums/a/t...1/m/3181034822 ... Main Site > ADRSupport Community > Forums > Spinal Roundtable Mar 25, 2:24 PM RE: LLLT (Low Level Laser Therapy) (in Spinal Roundtable) by Harrison A few more thoughts on the cold laser treatments. The feedback I hear from patients is quite promising; here's some blurbs from a mfr of this technology: http://www.medicalquant.com/testimonials.htm#backPain ... Main Site > ADRSupport Community > Forums > Spinal Roundtable Jul 8, 7:26 PM Cold Laser Pain Treatment Grows In Popularity (in Article Library) by Harrison Cold Laser Pain Treatment Grows In Popularity Fri Jan 19, 8:58 AM ET A new painless laser treatment ... , a chiropractor at the Pain Relief Center in Dedham. The cold laser is becoming more popular because ... ," Glenn said. Cold laser therapy works with a red light that stimulates cells through the skin, which... Main Site > ADRSupport Community > Forums > Article Library Jan 19, 12:18 PM RE: Cold Laser Pain Treatment Grows In Popularity (in Article Library) by Harrison 'Cold' Lasers Take Aim At Pain and Swelling By LAURA JOHANNES March 6, 2007; Page D2 It may sound like something out of "Star Trek" but makers of low-intensity "cold" lasers say the devices treat ... scientific evidence for cold lasers, but beware of exaggerated claims. Cold lasers are typically... Main Site > ADRSupport Community > Forums > Article Library Mar 6, 10:46 AM RE: Frequency Specific Microcurrent (in Spinal Roundtable) by Harrison JF, the Laser Inst. in Florida uses lasers for surgery; I'm not sure if they practice cold laser treatment therapy. There have been some horrific reports on this forum from patients who have traveled there for treatment -- see Daniela's story here. ... Main Site > ADRSupport Community > Forums > Spinal Roundtable Jul 14, 11:13 AM Frequency Specific Microcurrent (in Spinal Roundtable) by Harrison Ive talked a bit about Cold Laser therapy, while also looking into other therapies for pain management treatment. This particular technology has been used for more than two decades in Europe and Russia. Frequency Specific Microcurrent is a way of treating nerve and muscle pain (and other... Main Site > ADRSupport Community > Forums > Spinal Roundtable Jul 13, 11:28 AM RE: "Newer" Pain Management Options (in Spinal Roundtable) by customsoda I tried several months of cold laser treatments combined with spinal decompression. The minor pain relief I had lasted only a day or so after each treatment and although I was told ... bank account. My wife tried the cold laser for foot pain, and it was successful for her, but once... Main Site > ADRSupport Community > Forums > Spinal Roundtable May 30, 7:53 PM RE: "Newer" Pain Management Options (in Spinal Roundtable) by ZorroSF I've had a PT who tried cold laser therapy on me for a straight week. All I got was outrageous bills and ripped off. I've heard if this is to work at all, you need to do this for a very long period of time. Add to the fact that most insurance companies don't cover this and I don't even see... Main Site > ADRSupport Community > Forums > Spinal Roundtable Jan 15, 2:40 PM RE: "Newer" Pain Management Options (in Spinal Roundtable) by Harrison Zorro, that's a bummer. I've learned that some patients get these treatments paid by insurance as physical therapy. Also, there are many differences in the cold laser technologies. E.g., the power output (duty cyle, wattage, wavelength, etc.). It depends on the pathology of the disease... Main Site > ADRSupport Community > Forums > Spinal Roundtable Jan 15, 7:24 PM "Newer" Pain Management Options (in Spinal Roundtable) by Harrison Eastern medicine. We've also talked about cold laser therapy, which used pulsed laser energy (it's not continuous wave; the "pulse" implies no heating effect). Many here have found cold laser therapy ... treated by folks Ive interviewed on your behalf! ______________________________________ Cold-Laser... Main Site > ADRSupport Community > Forums > Spinal Roundtable Sep 1, 12:39 PM RE: Pain in the Rib cage?? (in Arthroplasty Central) by Harrison Rosie, cold laser is a new treatment for pain relief. Some say it helps with the actual healing process. See these posts in the Article Library, one is from today's Wall Street Journal: http://adrsupport.org/eve/forums?a=t...732#5351004732 Hopefully, the pain is just part... Main Site > ADRSupport Community > Forums > Arthroplasty Central Mar 6, 10:51 AM RE: Microcurrent Therapy (in Spinal Roundtable) by Harrison Cathy, glad this is helping you! I wrote about this back in July and pasted this from another topic from then: ____________________ Ive talked a bit about Cold Laser therapy, while also looking into other therapies for pain management treatment. This particular technology has been used for more... Main Site > ADRSupport Community > Forums > Spinal Roundtable Nov 23, 10:01 AM RE: PT: nmes experience cervical herniated disc (in Spinal Roundtable) by Harrison health, every day stressors); - types of equipment for muscle stimulation (ultrasound, cold laser... Main Site > ADRSupport Community > Forums > Spinal Roundtable Jul 15, 9:12 PM Cold Laser Therapy and Kinesio Taping? Anyone here exp this? (in Spinal Roundtable) by Kim crew used this during the Tour De France and they had really good results with it and cold laser... Main Site > ADRSupport Community > Forums > Spinal Roundtable Aug 14, 9:42 PM RE: Post ADR – Problems with scar tissue? (in The Big File) by Harrison /forums/a/tpc/f/7501036081/m/2...701045412#2701045412 - Cold laser therapy. Machines introduced... Main Site > ADRSupport Community > Forums > The Big File Jul 13, 10:40 AM Searching for pain relief: electronic 'spinal decompression' (in Article Library) by Harrison also receives H-wave "cold" laser treatments and electronic stimulation therapy from Wood during her... Main Site > ADRSupport Community > Forums > Article Library Apr 17, 12:50 PM RE: Problems with 2002 ADR trial (in Arthroplasty Central) by Harrison on this forum): 1. Cold laser therapy used across the country, mostly in rehab clinics for pain... Main Site > ADRSupport Community > Forums > Arthroplasty Central Aug 4, 9:42 AM
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08-16-2008, 02:09 PM
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HI Rich
Thanks for the list and the links. I did search earlier and don't know what I did wrong, but I did not come up with all the ones that you gave me today. It seems that this is beneficial for some not for others. I am still interested in researching this further. As I said, I will discuss this with the pain doc on Monday. The chiro I found in Nashville did train with the chiro who treated Armstrong and the bike team on their Tour so that makes me feel better about the legitimacy of the treatment. I will update with what I find out as it might benefit others. Thanks again
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Kim Herniated disc L5/S1 2000 Discectomy 10/2003 Rhizotomy 8/2004 and 3/2005Discogram 11/04 grade 7 tear L5/S1 L4/L5 Grade 5 tear with herniation and stenosis Evaluated by Dr Blumenthal at TBI 2/2005 ADR 2 level recommended 2 level lumbar fusion
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